Atlantic Wall prep

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Re: Atlantic Wall prep

Post by shturmovik » Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:23 pm

I agree on Sicily.
This system would be perfect for that campaign.
Map may be another monster though!
Perhapshe should release a smaller campaign,
with plenty of worked examples to provide an intro to GOSS.
Right now, it's very hard to jump right in.

How about the Walcheren Island campaign?

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Re: Atlantic Wall prep

Post by Racine » Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:53 pm

Another battle that was touch and go that would fit your desire for a small battle would be the Crete invasion. Would be fine to help illustrate the GOSS rules.

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Re: Atlantic Wall prep

Post by MTierney » Sun Feb 01, 2015 1:11 pm

My wish would be for an Italian Campaign! No one ever does Italy, yet it was epic in scope, diversity of units and interesting battles. Why is it ignored?
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Re: Atlantic Wall prep

Post by tombeach » Sun Feb 01, 2015 4:35 pm

Was linked in the CSW forum to this previous list of questions on Airborne Module. I post it here for convenience. It is post #1612 from September 1, 2014.

I'm running through the AAS and have come across a few more things that I need to ask about:

There are two z-step 6lb units: b/6AL and b/3. Are they breakdowns for (one of the) two 6lb cos landed by glider during AAS? Or, what?

JY: They are bkdwns for the two 6lb AT companies of the 3rd and 4th Para Bgdes. How it is supposed to work is that you can sub one of them and one bkwn Zstep 6 lb AT unit for one full company. There seems to have been a mixup and one 6 lb at company for 6AL bed is not shown. It arrives at DZ W on the June 6PM GT via Glider. Bring in the Zstep unit of this bgde plus a bkdwn Z step unit at this DZ.

82AB: the 80AT is listed twice on the display: once with DZ W during AAS, once with W June 6 PM. Are they supposed to be 80a during AAS and 80b at 6PM? And they can then combine into the 80 (flip side of 80b)?

JY: Yes.

41.2.5 - What's the survival roll when a para co lands in a city hex (6AB in Caen)

JY: same as Marsh or forest, use those values.

The 22 Path/6AB has no FoW side - does this mean it always lands regrouped?

JY: yes.

41.4.3a - which PR does the German unit use when an Allied FoW unit attempts to enter the hex?

JY: Defensive PR.

41.4.3 - ref should be to 15.8.2 not 15.8.1a

JY: correct.

41.8.1 - if FoW units stacked with regrouped units, do they simply add 1 to the strength (and can be chosen as the lead unit, with PR6)?

JY: Yes.

41.4.1a - first bullet - what's the leader's DRM - it just says "-"

JY: it is -1 to the DR.

AAS and artillery units. Can they moved during the AAS? Go OOB? Go IB?

JY: they cannot be moved or go in/out of battery. They're stuck until daylight.

Can they add their strengths to attacks or defences a) if in the attacking or defending hex? or b) when not in attacking or defending hexes?

JY: they can only defend, and this only in the hex they occupy.

Do they generate movement halts in combination with

JY:

41.7.2 and 41.11.0 - German units moving using MPs. What are the restrictions on modes and movement types for these German units? I'm assuming tactical mode only and they can only use tactical movement or tactical road movement.

JY: correct. However, FoW units can never generate Movement Halts by themselves against German units.

(cont.) Must they pay MPs to move adjacent to Allied units? Allied FoW units?

JY: No.

(cont.) Do Allied units generate movement halts against these units?

JY: No, since artillery is not functioning normally during the Airborne Assault module.
(cont.) Does GOSS 7.7.6 apply during AAS? That is, can German leg units move 2 extra MPs if all their movement is along roads?

JY: No.

Can German units breakdown or recombine during the AAS? If so, how many MPs or hexes of their MA does this cost?

JY: no.

Is any construction or bridge-blowing allowed for either side beyond the bridge-blowing attempts by Allied units described in 41.4.4?

JY: no.
Advance after Combat. The rules don't state whether units may advance after combat during the AAS if they force the defenders to retreat. Presumably if they can they can only advance into the defender's just-vacated hex.

JY: no advance - you'll have to take it by either moving again or during the AM GT using movement. This is intentional.

Thanks in advance...

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Re: Atlantic Wall prep

Post by Racine » Sun Feb 01, 2015 7:30 pm

Merv,

My uncle was wounded at Anzio and left the war for good. The campaign was a dirty wet struggle until the Poles finally captured Cassino and the Germans retreated to prepared positions somewhere north of Rome.

But if there were an Italian campaign I would want to be Monty and the 8th Army. While the battle at Salerno was on I would guarantee a one hex per day advancement from the toe of Italy.

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Re: Atlantic Wall prep

Post by tombeach » Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:42 pm

Joe's responses to my questions are now included.



Joe,

Here are the list of questions compiled during recent play over the weeks. Some are borderline but still remain either needing clarification or foggy for me. Thanks in advance!

Fire Support Mission Questions

FS Table Modifiers and SNAFU:

Q: Does the modifier of +1 (E: Other Conditions) for Observing unit on a vantage point apply to AP missions when resolved on the FSM Table for missions that go SNAFU and land on friendly troops?

JY: Yes.

Q: Additionally, is it negated (note 3) if the friendly unit is also on a vantage point?

JY: No.

FSM Table and Forts

Q: Are the FSM Table numerical results considered Discretionary Hits (as per GA) or Additional Numerical Hits (as per FSM) where Forts are permitted to absorb those FSM hits results?

JY: They are just hits. Note that only the first hit can be taken as a retreat, but forts can absorb hits - as can ETs.

FSM Modifiers

Q: Does a Recon unit qualify as either ‘AFV Mixed’ or ‘AFV Pure’ for FSM mods category C?

JY: mixed.



Artillery Questions

Q: As an MU, does Horse Artillery qualify to both prevent a second MU starting in the hex from using Road Movement, as well as forcing additional MP’s to be spent and the halting of another MU when moving into such hexes containing HA?

JY: If the Horse artillery is Out of Battery, it creates the same conditions as any other mech unit re blocking roads etc.

Q: Why do SPA’s and artillery have a red-boxed instead of a white-boxed (WaR & Hurtgen) encased MP rate on their IB side?

JY:I think that was just a way of symbolizing the ability to move while in battery.

Q: Is the use of a red box to designate something other than a reminder for half-movement allowed?

JY: No.

Regarding German NW units:

Q: What does the white circle within the German 150 NW unit type boxes mean? Designating it is an SP unit as per this rule?

JY: top of my head (rules not handy) - they are SPropelled units.

Q: If German 150 NW unit types are considered SPA’s, what are German 210 NW’s? Both calibers have red-boxed MP rates, albeit different.

JY: anything other than 150s means the unit, as a whole, is not SP.

Q: If 210 NW units are NOT designated as SPA’s, why do they have a red-boxed MP rate on their IB side?

JY: might be an artifact from an earlier discarded rule.

Q: Why do caliber-designated 150 NW and 150 < horse drawn batteries have the same red-boxed MP rate on their IB side?

JY: see prev answ.

Terrain/Terrain Effects Charts Questions

Terrain Effects Chart

Q: What are some examples of a River and a Major River on the AW maps? They are nearly indistinguishable.

The Dives is a River up until the blue line across the hex around 8 hexes from the coast. Plus there is a fill for Maj Rivers.

AW Canals

Q: How are the Canals on the AW maps treated for movement purposes (example B4612)?

JY: as rivers, unless they contain a fill - then they are Maj Rivers.



Strategic Map Questions

Q: What are the base Movement Attempt Die Roll numbers for: RR, Mech and Leg movement on the Strategic Map?

JY: Get back to you later on this. I thought the numbers were printed on the map in each sector?



Ground Assault Questions

Q: Does the the movement halt generated by an ET-2 FW apply during the advance after combat portion of GA?

JY: After the first hex, yes.

Q: For the purposes of both G17.3.3c & G13.8.5f what exactly qualifies a German tank as “Heavy?” (An AF factor of 5 or more? The Bridge Class under UIC Silhouettes? Both?)

JY: AF factor of 5 or more. Just remember, MkVs, MVIs (either type), JgdPzVs, JgdPz VIs are all heavy or very heavy types.



Airborne Module

Q: Can German artillery with a movement allowance of 0 change formation and move?

No.

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Re: Atlantic Wall prep

Post by tombeach » Wed Feb 04, 2015 3:47 pm

Merv,

Are you okay with Germans using Breakdown Coy record keeping as opposed to generic? Any other options you want to present before we meet?

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Re: Atlantic Wall prep

Post by thatlee » Thu Feb 05, 2015 2:56 am

I just finished watching the Longest Day (to get in the mood for Winterfest). You guys have a lot to live up to! Good luck!

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